As a former regular pioneer for four years, I would have to say field service.
Mrs. Fiorini
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deaden your body member(s)?...jw wifes answer...many jw questions too
by oompa inso we talked briefly by phone after she read this email/letter, and we talked about the masturbation point and married sex stuff....i asked what were the biblical reasons for fds teachings....she said for masturbation it was "deaden therefor your body members"....i said that did not mention masturbations....then it hit me.....crap....masturbation is how you deaden your body members!!
!......esp as a kid....your all excited (horny)....so how do you deaden it?....the answer is obvious.........oompa.
dear wife, please read all of this letter.
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Mrs. Fiorini
These are great questions. I actually know a couple who left the WT because of questions like these. They couldn't help but notice that WT policies were a lot like the Pharisees that Jesus condemned. You might want to share with her some of the scriptures where Jesus criticized the Pharisees and all their petty little rules.
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Do JW's actually have "beliefs"?
by still_in74 ini have thought about this a lot recently.
as a jw, did/do i really have "beliefs"?.
how can a person have "beleifs" only to turn a page in a magazine - the same mag that tought them what they believe - and now completely change their "beliefs"?.
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Mrs. Fiorini
I think all JWs have their true beliefs, which vary from person to person. The WT tells them they must adopt a particular set of beliefs, which can and do change at the org's request. Since they use manipulative techniques on their followers, JWs think they believe the WT dogma.
When I was still a dub, we had a conversation in our fs car group one day about what we would believe if we were not JWs. The answer to that question is what individual JWs really believe, in my opinion. And I'm not talking about the WT implanted phobias such as 'I would probably be so lost that I would have become a drug addicit, prostitute, criminal, committed suicide,' etc. But instead I'm talking about what the individual really thinks makes sense in life.
When asked what their beliefs are, most JWs will say whatever the org currently teaches, and promptly change their "beliefs" as the org reveals "new light." That's why the question "if you weren't a JW what would you believe?" is important to ask.
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Any suggestions on how I can help get my hubby out
by wifeofjw ini have not posted very often but, i do read the posts all the time.
my hubby was not a jw when we got married.
it has been 9 years of the borg.
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Mrs. Fiorini
While some cult members find happiness in their group, especially at first, it is just a matter of time before most become disillusioned. This is because, as Steven Hassan says, cults, ultimately, do not deliver on what they promise. Being there to help your loved one out when the time comes will be a gift for him.
Using every opportunity to point out how other cults (not JW) function and letting your JW recognize the same tactics in the organization can help speed the process along.
Best wishes to you on your efforts.
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How do you fight a monster?
by easyreader1970 inthe wbts frightens me.
it is as though they have no weaknesses.
one might say that this is assurance that it is the true organization of god.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Personally, I'm not sure that it's in the best interest of most JW's for the WT to be brought down all of a sudden, even if it was possible. People who have devoted their lives to a cult need to choose to leave when they are ready, not be forced to by events. That's my opinion anyway. I would hate to see large numbers of distraut followers committing suicide or something as a result.
That having been said, I would love nothing more than for the WT to either change to the point that they are no longer abusing people, or dwindle away to nonexistance. I, too, detest that organization for all the pain and damage they have caused to their followers.
It seems to me that the best way to fight them is to educate the public about cults and how they work. Then followers of all groups, including JWs can see their way out as they are ready to, and hopefully find support and healing in the process. I believe, as Steven Hassan does, that this is a public health issue and should be addressed as such by society. For this education to be effective, it has to receive widespread attention from the public. I'm not sure what can make that happen, except another tragedy maybe. :-(
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First Birthday
by purplesofa inafter taking tons of pics and then realizing i did not have memory card in the camera, i did not get many pics.
jada had a blast, had tons of kids there and i took a nerve pill that proved to be a bit too strong, (probably why i took all those pics with no memory card!!!).
the day brought back lots of memories of when my kids were little and we celebrated birthdays, before i became a jw, my oldest was 7 and my youngest was not born when i got baptised.. it's great fun and if you have reservations about celebrating i understand.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Purps, your grandbaby is just the cutest!!
Thanks for sharing the pics.
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THE FADE IS OVER
by BurnTheShips inwhy hide like i have done something wrong?
i have nothing to be ashamed of.
it is apostate time.. bts.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Congratulations and best wishes to you! Being true to yourself is an empowering experience isn't it? Maybe you will inspire others to pursue a better life for themselves outside the WT too.
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Watchtower Speech Taboos - Censorship by Ommision
by unclebruce inbahbuttons said: another time i accidently told a kid god bless you in the kh and you'd think i just said every swear word known to man with the looks i got from everyone....another embaressing moment that was.............fond memories eh,lolquoteendquoteeend.
th is an interesting point.
apostates always bang on about watchtower double speak and the way the society twists words, investing them with mind-control triggers but rarely do we hear about censorship by omission, the words jw's can't speak.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Who can forget the oh so sinful 'Good Luck'?
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Can a Lack of Sleep Cause Psychiatric Disorders?
by Archer inok where do i start.
last year my mother-in-law (still a witness) fell ill, she seemed at least in begining kind of ok during the day but at night would go nuts, always needing something.
my wife is the main person looking after her, i help when i can but my early rising means if i don't get enough of sleep i might as well stay at home or someone can get killed (i work at subway control centre).
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Mrs. Fiorini
I don't know how old your mil is, but she may have something called 'sundowners', where elderly people become agitated, anxious and frightened at night. We were afraid my grandmother was getting this after she had cancer surgery. Happily for us it turned out to be temporary, and after several months and some changes in medication, it has gone away. (This is sometimes caused my medication and drugs in the system, so maybe that's why it coincides with your mil's illness. I would mention it to the doctor, especially if you can get a gerontologist that specializes in elderly medicine. Perhaps he or she could give you some advice.)
This must be very upsetting to your wife to see, as well as exhausting. Can she get some help from anyone else in the family? My mother is my grandmother's primary care person, too, and it was really taking a toll on her. My uncle, who lives out of town, has been coming down during weekends to give my mom a break. He even stayed for several days so my parents could take a little mini vacation and relax a little. If someone could do that for your wife, it could make a big difference.
I hope the best for you and your family.
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My Brother In Law just died tonight.
by AK - Jeff inhe was 51. we had not been close in the past few years.. he suffered from a rare ailment called sarcoid.
it can afflict several organs of the body, but in his case, it affected his brain.
it caused swelling, and subsequent issues from that.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Sorry for your loss.
How nice that you are planning to wear clothes he would have liked. Funerals should be about the people we loved, not infomercials for the WT. I hope your choice of attire makes others in attendance think a little.